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Poster: Vermoontains Date: Sep 30, 2019 8:45am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Some Hunter lines

Some of his lines really get me.
Here are some that stick out now

Polished like a golden bowl
The finest ever seen

Who loves loneliness
Loves it alone

He has a theme of cups, empty and full

Don't give it up
You've got an empty cup

Time there was and plenty
But from that cup no more

Love and Time are common themes for everyone.

The Annotated lyrics is fun for a lot of sources or links to his words. I think Hunter, like all writers, was a great thief or, beg steal or borrow, if you will. The Bible appears often and of course old folk songs that he freshened up a bit.

Any other lines ?


I don't even know the words This post was modified by Vermoontains on 2019-09-30 15:45:58

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Poster: Earl B. Powell Date: Sep 29, 2019 11:42am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Some Hunter lines

Since I've been stoked on the KB Country Music documentary, there were a few comments about Kris Kristofferson's songwriting that are applicable to Hunter. I'm paraphrasing, but the gist of it is this; we all know these words, but who could have ever possibly thought to put them in that order?

I'm convinced that hunter was a student of history, literature, and the bible. I'm just as convinced that he was a thief of sorts. Not a plagiarist, but in terms of borrowing themes from archaic murder ballads and bringing them into contemporary times, as an example.

He knew the themes to be timeless, and reassembled the words - and the implication of those words - to become timeless as well.

"Hey mister! I don't mean to be tellin' tales out of school, but there's a feller in there that'll pay you ten dollars if you sing into his can."

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Poster: Finster Baby Date: Oct 5, 2019 6:35am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Some Hunter lines

Curious about this country music doc...
What is it, and where do I find it?
Always love to read/watch about all kinds of different music

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Poster: Earl B. Powell Date: Oct 5, 2019 8:13am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Some Hunter lines

I think BBC has the Euro rights and won't come out until later. Try this though..

https://www.pbs.org/kenburns/country-music/episode-guide

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Poster: Finster Baby Date: Oct 5, 2019 2:37pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Some Hunter lines

Thank you. Took me bit to realize who KB is..
Found it on my local PBS on demand.
Can also purchase the entire series on amazon video..

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Poster: Vermoontains Date: Sep 29, 2019 12:16pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Some Hunter lines

I agree and he did it as well as anyone. He peopled his songs with characters and places and situations where they had to make choices. Some simple, some not but choices were made and lines were drawn. Over time, these lines drew the lines of my own face.

I don't know your last line. I guess it is from the doc.

Your comments on KB and Hunter and others are well stated.The doc was easy to watch and I learned things I didn't know which is always good. To me he had to find a narrative to tell his story and he found quite a few. I liked the Jimmie Rodgers and Hank Williams stories. Neither lived long enough to test Tell's theory of rot and rust

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Sep 30, 2019 9:33am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Some Hunter lines

Last line is "O, Brother, Where Art Thou?", one of the greatest films of this century. Perhaps one of the best soundtracks of ANY century.

"Thank God, your mama died givin' birth. If she'd have seen you, she'd have died of shame."

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Poster: Earl B. Powell Date: Sep 30, 2019 1:53pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Some Hunter lines

Prime Minister Tell: " Is you is, or is you ain't, my constituency?"

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Poster: William Tell Date: Oct 1, 2019 1:11pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Some Hunter lines

Excellent; I have to start using that around here....it's right up there w the old original descriptor for High Flow and dire's bball team ("bottom dwelling butt munches" or some such).

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Poster: Reade Date: Oct 1, 2019 10:55am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Some Hunter lines

Who knew to put them in that order? surely, and it's also what you get when you throw them all into one big pot.

Out comes that narrative, that perspective, the point of view. His ear for dialogue and conversation, that which connects everybody, the common language of existence, always so clearly spoken.
The rewards of community and comradeship, along with the tough stuff as well of course. Couldn't you try just a little harder? the counter balance to What do you want me to do, to do for you?
Think this through with me, I can't do it alone. The warmth of his we're all-in-this-together thing, which was how somebody (can't remember who) summarized where country music was coming from on the KB flick.

I always loved how he had way more to write about than 'baby baby baby I love you miss you love you miss you...' His open heart didn't tell many lies. As he said Jerry told him right before he died, 'Your words never stuck in my mouth.'

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Poster: snoori Date: Sep 30, 2019 8:34am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Some Hunter lines

The first lines in 'Brown-eyed women' have me transfixed like I'm staring at a sepia tainted old phograph over a smokey hearth. Timeless.

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Poster: c-freedom Date: Sep 30, 2019 1:24pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Some Hunter lines

"And it's just a box of rain, I don't know who put it there
Believe it if you need it or leave it if you dare
And it's just a box of rain, or a ribbon for your hair
Such a long, long time to be gone and a short time to be there"
ROBERT HUNTER

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Poster: William Tell Date: Sep 30, 2019 3:57pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Some of the BEST Hunter lines

Hats off to cfree; I'd say you could fill a response on this thread w lyrics from Workingman's and AmBeaty. Then, if we all voted on the top 25 of all time, from ANY album, the 25 would ALL be from those two...OK, okay--maybe a chance for a couple from WotFlood and Euro72, but no chance for anything else (sorry, Terrapin fans).


Hmm, OK # 2, maybe StSt...


;)





This post was modified by William Tell on 2019-09-30 22:57:00

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Poster: c-freedom Date: Sep 30, 2019 4:42pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Some of the BEST Hunter lines

Hey Tell,

"Did he doubt or did he try?
Answers aplenty in the bye and bye
Talk about your plenty and talk about your ills
One man gathers what another man spills"

Promontory Rider
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnfLQ-S0GbY
Hunter sits in with Garcia Band

Also LOVE this:

"There were days
and there were days
and there were days I know
when all we ever wanted
was to learn and love and grow"

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Poster: ColdRain108 Date: Oct 1, 2019 4:22pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Some of the BEST Hunter lines

this one really gets me...

Hearts of Summer held in trust
Still tender, young and green
Left on shelves collecting dust
Not knowing what they mean
Valentines of flesh and blood
Still tender, young and green
Hoping love would not forsake
The days that lie between lie between

in particular the way it was delivered on this most splendid show- my final one.

https://archive.org/details/gd1995-05-29.fob.schoeps.jones-trigale-cowan.85419.flac16/gd1995-05-29d3t03.flac

The world grows dark and mean...preach it brother.

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Poster: c-freedom Date: Oct 2, 2019 6:12pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Some of the BEST Hunter lines: ONE THING TO TRY


COLD RAIN 108

How about some lines from a Hunter tune
that just screams PIGPEN
Lyrics:Robert Hunter
Music: Robert Hunter

ONE THING TO TRY
Break out your bottle, be in trouble by noon
Never get satisfaction 'cause you boil too soon
Them downtown chippies know your weight to the ounce
But the harder you fall, Jack, the higher you bounce
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But if you're in a hurry, and really got to go
If you're in a hurry, might have to find out slow
That it's one thing to try and another to fly
You get there quicker just a step at a time
It's one thing to bark, another to bite
The show ain't over till you pack up at night
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Out of ninety-nine people all running around
Not one in a hundred got his feet on the ground
You find one in a thousand holding some in reserve
For when the real true action comes around the curve
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Take care of your people, get some of them fed
Hide the ones in trouble out under your bed
Keep an eye to the future, an ear to the past
After thinking it over, notice nothing much lasts
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Don't ever let it get the best of you
Plan what you can, and let the rest shine through
Just so many angles you can possibly see
Figure on those, let the other ones be
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Don't be out collecting more than you need
Got a lot of things growing but keep watching those seeds
Got to share in December what you planted in May
If the harvest is empty, find some other good way
ROBERT HUNTER!

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Poster: Mooding Date: Oct 1, 2019 7:37pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Some of the BEST Hunter lines

What, no love for

"Let my inspiration flow
in token lines suggesting rhythm
that will not forsake me
till my tale is told and done"?

It broadly sums up Hunter's writing for the band pretty well I think.